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Radiant & HydronicsThe Glitch & The Fix

Primary/secondary/ thirdinary

By John Siegenthaler, P.E.
March 17, 2012

Over the last few years, hydraulic separators have been gaining popularity in the North American hydronics market. Eager to keep up with this new technology, an installer decides to install a hydraulic separator between a boiler and distribution system. 



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The Glitch

Over the last few years, hydraulic separators have been gaining popularity in the North American hydronics market. They provide an alternative to closely spaced tees when the task is to isolate the pressure dynamics of one hydronic circuit from those of another, connected circuit.

Eager to keep up with this new technology, an installer decides to install a hydraulic separator between a boiler and distribution system as shown in the figure below. This system serves space-heating loads and a prioritized indirect water heater.

Look over the drawing and see if you can spot any errors, as well as methods of achieving the desired operation with simpler piping and less hardware.



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The Fix

A hydraulic separator eliminates the need to use closely spaced tees when connecting load circuits. There is absolutely no need to create an extra pumped loop on the load side of the hydraulic separator. All load circuits can be piped across the headers as shown. Those headers should be short and sized for a maximum flow velocity of 2 ft. per second. This keeps the pressure drop along the length of the header extremely small (e.g., negligible).

The slow flow rate along the vertical height of the hydraulic separator adds virtually nothing to this pressure drop. Thus, the differential pressure between the upper and lower headers is essentially zero. Each load connected across the headers is unable to detect the presence of the other load circuits.

Other errors in the original drawing include:
 

 

 

 

  • Reversed piping on the coil connection of the indirect water heater. Hot water should always enter at the top connection to create counterflow heat exchange within the tank.
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  • Circulators for indirect tank and boiler side of hydraulic separator should push flow into the compact mod/con boiler to keep internal pressure up and avoid potential for steam flash. The circulator serving the indirect water heater is attempting to “suck” water through the boiler. Not a good idea, especially since the water temperature is likely to be elevated during the domestic water heating cycle.
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  • In a true primary/secondary system (which this is not), all secondary circulators should pump into their secondary circuits, not toward the closely spaced tees. This allows the primary loop to serve as the point of no pressure change for the secondary circuit. Thus, a properly placed secondary circulator will increase the pressure in its associated circuit when it operates.
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  • There should be a check valve to prevent thermosyphoning from the upper connection on the coil of the indirect water heater. The check valve in the circulator at the bottom of this circuit is not adequate to stop thermosyphoning.

    Without the additional check valve at the upper connection, there will be a slight but “aggravating” flow of hot water along the top of the pipe while cool water slides back along the bottom of the pipe. The larger the pipe, the more pronounced this effect. Why let this effect slowly suck heat out of the tank?
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  • The supply water temperature sensor should always be downstream (e.g., on the outlet side) of the hydraulic separator. This allows it to sense the true supply water temperature to the zone circuits. This temperature will vary depending on the number of zone circuits operating at any given time.
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    KEYWORDS: hydronic controls hydronic system design incorrect design schematic layout

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    John Siegenthaler, P.E., is a consulting engineer and principal of Appropriate Designs in Holland Patent, New York. In partnership with HeatSpring, he has developed several online courses that provide in-depth, design-level training in modern hydronics systems, air-to-water heat pumps and biomass boiler systems. Additional information and resources for hydronic system design are available on Siegenthaler’s website,  www.hydronicpros.com.

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