• Sign In
  • Create Account
  • Sign Out
  • My Account
  • NEWS
  • PRODUCTS
  • CONTRACTORS
  • ENGINEERS
  • RADIANT & HYDRONICS
  • INSIGHTS
  • MEDIA
  • RESOURCES
  • EMAGAZINE
  • SIGN UP!
cart
facebook instagram twitter linkedin youtube
  • CONTRACTORS
  • BATH & KITCHEN PRO
  • BUSINESS MANAGEMENT
  • HIGH EFFICIENCY HOMES
  • TECHNOLOGY
  • WATER TREATMENT
  • PMC COLUMNS
  • PMC COLUMNS
  • Dave Yates: Contractor’s Corner
  • John Siegenthaler: Hydronics Workshop
  • Kenny Chapman: The Blue Collar Coach
  • Matt Michel: Service Plumbing Pros
  • Scott Secor: Heating Perceptions
  • ENGINEERS
  • CONTINUING EDUCATION
  • DECARBONIZATION | ELECTRIFICATION
  • FIRE PROTECTION
  • GEOTHERMAL | SOLAR THERMAL
  • PIPING | PLUMBING | PVF
  • PME COLUMNS
  • PME COLUMNS
  • Christoph Lohr: Strategic Plumbing Insights
  • David Dexter: Plumbing Talking Points
  • James Dipping: Engineer Viewpoints
  • John Seigenthaler: Renewable Heating Design
  • Lowell Manalo: Plumbing Essentials
  • Misty Guard: Guard on Compliance
  • RADIANT & HYDRONICS
  • RADIANT COMFORT REPORT
  • THE GLITCH & THE FIX
  • INSIGHTS
  • CODES
  • GREEN PLUMBING & MECHANICAL
  • PROJECT PROFILES
  • COLUMNS
  • SPONSOR INSIGHTS
  • COLUMNS
  • Codes Corner
  • Natalie Forster: Editorial Opinion
  • Guest Editorial
  • MEDIA
  • PODCASTS
  • VIDEOS
  • WEBINARS
  • RESOURCES
  • INDUSTRY CALENDAR
  • DIRECTORIES
  • EBOOKS
  • PM BOOKSTORE
  • CE CENTER
  • MARKET RESEARCH
  • CLASSIFIEDS
  • EMAGAZINE
  • EMAGAZINE
  • ARCHIVE ISSUES
  • CONTACT
  • ADVERTISE
  • PME EMAGAZINE ARCHIVES
search
cart
facebook instagram twitter linkedin youtube
  • Sign In
  • Create Account
  • Sign Out
  • My Account
  • NEWS
  • PRODUCTS
  • CONTRACTORS
    • BATH & KITCHEN PRO
    • BUSINESS MANAGEMENT
    • HIGH EFFICIENCY HOMES
    • TECHNOLOGY
    • WATER TREATMENT
    • PMC COLUMNS
      • Dave Yates: Contractor’s Corner
      • John Siegenthaler: Hydronics Workshop
      • Kenny Chapman: The Blue Collar Coach
      • Matt Michel: Service Plumbing Pros
      • Scott Secor: Heating Perceptions
  • ENGINEERS
    • CONTINUING EDUCATION
    • DECARBONIZATION | ELECTRIFICATION
    • FIRE PROTECTION
    • GEOTHERMAL | SOLAR THERMAL
    • PIPING | PLUMBING | PVF
    • PME COLUMNS
      • Christoph Lohr: Strategic Plumbing Insights
      • David Dexter: Plumbing Talking Points
      • James Dipping: Engineer Viewpoints
      • John Seigenthaler: Renewable Heating Design
      • Lowell Manalo: Plumbing Essentials
      • Misty Guard: Guard on Compliance
  • RADIANT & HYDRONICS
    • RADIANT COMFORT REPORT
    • THE GLITCH & THE FIX
  • INSIGHTS
    • CODES
    • GREEN PLUMBING & MECHANICAL
    • PROJECT PROFILES
    • COLUMNS
      • Codes Corner
      • Natalie Forster: Editorial Opinion
      • Guest Editorial
    • SPONSOR INSIGHTS
  • MEDIA
    • PODCASTS
    • VIDEOS
    • WEBINARS
  • RESOURCES
    • INDUSTRY CALENDAR
    • DIRECTORIES
    • EBOOKS
    • PM BOOKSTORE
    • CE CENTER
    • MARKET RESEARCH
    • CLASSIFIEDS
  • EMAGAZINE
    • EMAGAZINE
    • ARCHIVE ISSUES
    • CONTACT
    • ADVERTISE
    • PME EMAGAZINE ARCHIVES
  • SIGN UP!
Columns

Thermal Equilibrium
John Siegenthaler, PE

By John Siegenthaler, P.E.
July 1, 2006
Achieving a balance between heat emitter area and supply water temperature.

Figure 1. Click image for larger view.

Did you ever consider what you do as a hydronic heating designer as an endless series of compromises? Sounds kind of like a “cop-out,” doesn't it? Still, it's an inescapable fact that we're always weighing options like performance, ease of installation, reliability and cost as we establish the hardware and configuration of every hydronic heating system. Compromise during design isn't necessarily a bad thing. One might even consider the optimal system as the one having the best combination of compromises.

One of the biggest design compromises we make deals with the relationship between the heat output characteristics of a hydronic distribution system and the supply water temperature to that system.

In decades past, when fuel was cheap, the North American hydronics industry favored use of high water temperatures, which reduced the required surface area of heat emitters. The reasoning was simple: Why pay for 10 ft. of fin-tube baseboard in a room if 6 ft. could do the job using a higher water temperature? This is why you'll find thermal output ratings for fin-tube baseboard that go up to at least 220 degrees F. This made sense in a pre-OPEC, pre-AFUE, pre-EPA era.

Today, the picture is quite different and the trend is clear: the future of North American hydronics is reduced operating temperature. This is necessary to allow boilers to operate with sustained flue gas condensation, which in turn boosts thermal efficiency from the mid-80 percent to mid-90 percent range. The days of cheap fuel and scalded water design are over. My suggestion: don't design any system for supply water temperatures over 200 degrees F, and favor even lower temperatures whenever possible.

So what does this mean for heat emitters? Well, from the standpoint of improving thermal performance, it means that bigger is better. Longer baseboards, larger panel radiators, and perhaps tighter spacing on radiant panel circuits are all in order if the design goal is to reduce the operating temperature of the system to improve its thermal efficiency.

Putting Numbers In The Discussion: A fundamental principal in sizing any type of hydronic heat emitter is that heat output is approximately proportional to the difference between supply water temperature and room air temperature. This can be written mathematically as follows:



Formula 1

Where:

Qoutput = heat output of heat emitter (Btu/hr.)

c = a number dependent on the type and size of heat emitter (Btu/hr./degrees F)

Ts = water temperature supplied to heat emitter (degrees F)

Tr = room air temperature (degrees F)

This relationship is true for a single heat emitter as well as a group of heat emitters operating as a distribution system.

For example, suppose you have a building where all the heat emitters (as a group) release 100,000 Btus/hr. into a 70-degree F space when the distribution system is supplied with water at 170 degrees F. The value of the “c” in Formula 1 can be found as follows:



In practical terms, this distribution system releases 1,000 Btus/hr. into the space for each degree F the water supply temperature exceeds the room air temperature. Hence, if the water temperature supplied was 130 degrees F, and the space air temperature was 68 degrees F, this distribution system would release:



I like to think of the term (Ts-Tr) in this formula as the “driving delta T.” It determines the rate that a given distribution system releases heat into the space being heated. Anything that makes the driving delta T larger (i.e., increasing supply temperature and/or decreasing space air temperature) increases the rate of heat transfer into the space and vice versa.

Formula 1 can also be represented by a graph. Figure 1 shows this for the same numbers used in the previous example.

All you need to construct this graph for a given distribution system is the heat output rate at one supply water temperature and the associated space temperature. Subtract the space temperature from the supply temperature to get the value of the driving delta T (Ts-Tr), then plot that point along with the associated heat output rate. This point must lie on the line, along with the point zero heat output at zero driving delta T. Just draw a straight line through these two points and extend it upward to higher values of (Ts-Tr) if you like.

The slope (steepness) of the line is determined by the number and size of the heat emitters that make up the distribution system. The larger the surface area of the heat emitters, the steeper the slope of the graph (see Figure 2).

Steeper lines indicate that a given rate of heat release occurs at lower values of the driving delta T. For a given room temperature, steeper lines favor lower supply water temperature. This, in turn, improves the efficiency of condensing boilers and other low-temperature hydronic heat sources.

In the case of spaces where the entire available floor area is heated, steeper lines are achieved by spacing tubing closer together. This lowers the supply temperature at which the floor will deliver a given rate of heat output. The radiant design software you use can probably give you numbers that relate tube spacing to heat output for a given type of installation and floor covering.

Adding the desired room temperature to the numbers along the bottom axis makes another useful variant of this graph. The graph now shows heat delivery vs. supply water temperature as shown in Figure 3. Note that each number on the bottom axis of Figure 3 is 70 degrees F (the desired space temperature) higher than the numbers along the bottom axis of Figure 2.



Figure 2. Click image for larger view.

Seeking A Balance

Every hydronic system you'll ever design or install “wants” to operate at a condition called thermal equilibrium. This occurs when the rate of heat released from the circulating water exactly equals the rate at which heat is imparted to the water by the heat source. The water temperature in the system automatically adjusts itself as necessary to make this condition occur.

If not for the intervention of temperature-limiting controls, every hydronic system would eventually stabilize at a supply water temperature where thermal equilibrium exists. This temperature may or may not provide the proper heat input to the building. Likewise, it may or may not be conducive to safe and efficient operation or long system life. Bluntly stated: The system “doesn't care” if it's delivering the proper amount of heat to the rooms or if it's operating safely. It only “cares” about achieving a balance between heat input and heat output.

You can use a heat output graph for a given distribution system to find the supply temperature at which that system will achieve thermal equilibrium with a heat source having a given heat output rate. First, locate the output rate of the heat source on the vertical axis. Now draw a horizontal line to the right until it intersects the sloping line. Finally, drop straight down to the horizontal axis to read the water supply temperature at which the system wants to operate.

For example: If a boiler having a fixed heat output rate of 60,000 Btus/hr. was coupled to the distribution system represented by Figure 3, that system would seek to operate at a supply water temperature of 130 degrees F.

This graph can also be used to predict the supply temperatures that occur as a modulating/condensing boiler reduces it firing rate. Here's another example: At a peak 80,000 Btus/hr. heat input rate, the distribution system represented by Figure 3 would settle to a steady supply temperature of 150 degrees F. If the boiler firing rate in the same system was reduced to 25 percent of this peak rate (20,000 Btus/hr.), the distribution system would settle to a supply temperature of 90 degrees F. It's easy to see that the water temperature a system operates at is based on the rate at which heat is “injected” into it, rather than the setting on the boiler limit control.



Figure 3. Click image for larger view.

Running Interference

Earlier I mentioned that temperature-limiting controls sometimes interfere with a system as it attempts to naturally find thermal equilibrium. Here's how that works.

If the temperature-limiting control of the heat source is set below the thermal equilibrium temperature, the heat emitters in the distribution system will not get hot enough to dissipate the full (steady state) output of the heat source. The temperature of the water leaving the heat source will climb as the system operates, eventually reaching the temperature setting of the limit control. At that point, the heat source (burner, compressor, etc.) is turned off.

The water temperature leaving the heat source begins to decrease as heat continues to be dissipated by the distribution system. Eventually, the temperature drops to the point where the heat source is turned back on, and the cycle repeats. This is a very common operating mode in many systems during partial load conditions. It can even occur under design load conditions in systems having an oversized heat source.

If the temperature-limiting control on the heat source is set above the temperature at which thermal equilibrium occurs, the water leaving the heat source will not be able to achieve that temperature setting unless the load is reduced or turned off. This explains why some systems never reach the set-point of the boiler limit control, even after hours of operation.

In simple terms, the distribution system doesn't need to climb to the boiler limit control setting to dissipate all the heat the boiler can throw at it. It only climbs as high as necessary so that all boiler heat input can be released. This is generally OK, provided that the boiler is not a “conventional” boiler operating with sustained flue gas condensation. Be wary of this when converting older cast-iron radiator systems with lots of radiator surface area to a water-based system, especially when the building envelope has been significantly improved to lower heat losses.

Downhill Trends: It's absolutely certain that hydronic heating systems in North America will be designed with increasingly lower supply water temperatures. This makes sense from the standpoint of efficiency and environment. It also makes sense from the standpoint of comfort. Large surface-area heat emitters improve comfort by increasing the mean radiant temperature of the room.

Get your head around the idea that the higher installation cost associated with lower system-operating temperatures is only part of the picture. Reduced operating costs, lower emissions and enhanced comfort are the other part. As crude oil prices close in on $75 per barrel with little hope of significant future price reductions, that other part is looking pretty good.



Links

  • Radiant & Hydronics e-News
  • HydronicPros.com
  • ISH North America

Share This Story

Looking for a reprint of this article?
From high-res PDFs to custom plaques, order your copy today!

Siegenthaler

John Siegenthaler, P.E., is a consulting engineer and principal of Appropriate Designs in Holland Patent, New York. In partnership with HeatSpring, he has developed several online courses that provide in-depth, design-level training in modern hydronics systems, air-to-water heat pumps and biomass boiler systems. Additional information and resources for hydronic system design are available on Siegenthaler’s website,  www.hydronicpros.com.

Recommended Content

JOIN TODAY
to unlock your recommendations.

Already have an account? Sign In

  • Worker using the Milwaukee Tool SWITCH PACK drain cleaner

    Pipeline profits: Drain cleaning, pipe inspection create opportunities

    Drain cleaning and inspection services offer lucrative...
    Green Plumbing and Mechanical
    By: Nicole Krawcke
  • Uponor employee, Arturo Moreno

    The reinvestment in American manufacturing and training

    Plumbing & Mechanical Chief Editor Nicole Krawcke and...
    Plumbing News
    By: Nicole Krawcke and Natalie Forster
  • March 2024 Women in Plumbing hero image of woman engineer overlayed by circle of hexagon shapes with numbers from 1 to 10

    Celebrating 10 Influential Women in the Plumbing Industry

    Celebrating Women's History Month and Women in...
    Plumbing News
    By: Nicole Krawcke
Subscribe For Free!
  • eNewsletters
  • Online Registration
  • Subscription Customer Service
  • eMagazine
  • Manage My Preferences

Bell & Gossett Illustrates Path to Net-zero at AHR Expo

Bell & Gossett Illustrates Path to Net-zero at AHR Expo

AI can boost efficiency and profitability for plumbing, HVAC contractors

AI can boost efficiency and profitability for plumbing, HVAC contractors

IPEX celebrates grand opening of new Florida distribution center

IPEX celebrates grand opening of new Florida distribution center

NIBCO Press Solutions

NIBCO Press Solutions

More Videos

Sponsored Content

Sponsored Content is a special paid section where industry companies provide high quality, objective, non-commercial content around topics of interest to the Plumbing & Mechanical audience. All Sponsored Content is supplied by the advertising company and any opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and not necessarily reflect the views of Plumbing & Mechanical or its parent company, BNP Media. Interested in participating in our Sponsored Content section? Contact your local rep!

close
  • J.J. Keller CMV vehicles on road
    Sponsored byJ. J. Keller & Associates, Inc.

    The dash cam game-changer for small business safety

Popular Stories

Figure 1 is a sketch of the flow problems of the current plumbing system.

Hydronic heating glitch solved: Why adding a circulator won't fix primary loop flow issue

The interior of a government building.

President Trump signs executive order promoting skilled trades and apprenticeships

Six tankless water heaters that feed the nutraceutical manufacturer’s operations.

How to deliver large volumes of hot water quickly and intermittently

PM BEMIS June 25 Free Webinar: Optimizing Plumbing Solutions for Single-Family, Multi-Family & Public Spaces

Events

November 13, 2024

Future Proofing MEP: Navigating the 2026 High Efficiency Water Heating Standards

Join our deep dive into DOE’s new standards so you can future-proof your MEP practice.

EARN: 0.1 ASPE CEU; 1 AIA LU/HSW; 0.1 IACET CEU*; 1 PDH

View All Submit An Event

Poll

Will business be up or down in 2025?

Do you anticipate business in 2025 to be up or down in comparison to 2024?
View Results Poll Archive

Products

The Water Came To A Stop

The Water Came To A Stop

See More Products

Download the FREE Water Conservation, Quality & Safety eBook: Plumbing Trends Increasing Safe Water Availability

Related Articles

  • The Do's And Don'ts Of Three-Way Thermostatic Valves
    John Siegenthaler, PE

    See More
  • Siegenthaler PM

    John Siegenthaler: Injection mixing combined with thermal storage

    See More
  • John Siegenthaler: Renewable Heating Design

    Details for bypassing thermal storage

    See More
×

Keep your content unclogged with our newsletters!

Stay in the know on the latest plumbing & piping industry trends.

JOIN TODAY!
  • RESOURCES
    • Advertise
    • Contact Us
    • Directories
    • Store
    • Want More
    • Supply House Times
  • SIGN UP TODAY
    • Create Account
    • eMagazine
    • eNewsletter
    • Customer Service
    • Manage Preferences
  • SERVICES
    • Marketing Services
    • Reprints
    • Market Research
    • List Rental
    • Survey/Respondent Access
  • STAY CONNECTED
    • LinkedIn
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • YouTube
    • X (Twitter)
  • PRIVACY
    • PRIVACY POLICY
    • TERMS & CONDITIONS
    • DO NOT SELL MY PERSONAL INFORMATION
    • PRIVACY REQUEST
    • ACCESSIBILITY

Copyright ©2025. All Rights Reserved BNP Media.

Design, CMS, Hosting & Web Development :: ePublishing

search
cart
facebook instagram twitter linkedin youtube
  • Sign In
  • Create Account
  • Sign Out
  • My Account
  • NEWS
  • PRODUCTS
  • CONTRACTORS
    • BATH & KITCHEN PRO
    • BUSINESS MANAGEMENT
    • HIGH EFFICIENCY HOMES
    • TECHNOLOGY
    • WATER TREATMENT
    • PMC COLUMNS
      • Dave Yates: Contractor’s Corner
      • John Siegenthaler: Hydronics Workshop
      • Kenny Chapman: The Blue Collar Coach
      • Matt Michel: Service Plumbing Pros
      • Scott Secor: Heating Perceptions
  • ENGINEERS
    • CONTINUING EDUCATION
    • DECARBONIZATION | ELECTRIFICATION
    • FIRE PROTECTION
    • GEOTHERMAL | SOLAR THERMAL
    • PIPING | PLUMBING | PVF
    • PME COLUMNS
      • Christoph Lohr: Strategic Plumbing Insights
      • David Dexter: Plumbing Talking Points
      • James Dipping: Engineer Viewpoints
      • John Seigenthaler: Renewable Heating Design
      • Lowell Manalo: Plumbing Essentials
      • Misty Guard: Guard on Compliance
  • RADIANT & HYDRONICS
    • RADIANT COMFORT REPORT
    • THE GLITCH & THE FIX
  • INSIGHTS
    • CODES
    • GREEN PLUMBING & MECHANICAL
    • PROJECT PROFILES
    • COLUMNS
      • Codes Corner
      • Natalie Forster: Editorial Opinion
      • Guest Editorial
    • SPONSOR INSIGHTS
  • MEDIA
    • PODCASTS
    • VIDEOS
    • WEBINARS
  • RESOURCES
    • INDUSTRY CALENDAR
    • DIRECTORIES
    • EBOOKS
    • PM BOOKSTORE
    • CE CENTER
    • MARKET RESEARCH
    • CLASSIFIEDS
  • EMAGAZINE
    • EMAGAZINE
    • ARCHIVE ISSUES
    • CONTACT
    • ADVERTISE
    • PME EMAGAZINE ARCHIVES
  • SIGN UP!